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Reyzo14
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PostSubject: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:24 am

This is a project i've been thinking of for a long time, and i finally have some time and spare change to do it.
The plan is to take a 1/36th scale car, and make it go as fast as possiable.

So far i have modified a DT chassie to be smooth on the top.
I have a mamba 25 esc mounted and ready to go.
I also have gotten new micro-t stock tire for the speed runs.
I am using all of my aluminum for this project to keep it together for the high speed flip i'm sure it will encounter, and those include:
Integy:
front and rear hinge blocks
front C-hubs
Front knuckles
GH Racing:
Front Bulkhead
3racing:
gearbox

I also am going to install lois stiff spring all the way arounf to keep the bottom of the chassie from scraping the ground from the downforce of the body.

Here is what i have so far:

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i have some items on the way:

BRP wedge body for the DT
3 Aeronuts lipos (2 to make a 4s lipo, and 1 for normal running)
Monotuning foam tires (have always wanted them, and i may use them for speed runs for the weight savings)
a JR SM22 servo saver
and a pack of extra wheel nuts (were on clearence Rolling Eyes )

I also have yet to get:
JR SM22 servo
Integy CVD'd
Losi Oil Shocks
Fiegao 5866kv motor
and i have yet to decide on a reciever confused
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:06 am

Next time your in the LHS check out cheap airplane landing gear wheels for the fronts. They are super light weight, narrow and strong. It would be like the front wheels on a dragster so it should not only cut the rotating mass but it would cut friction and areodynamic drag. It would only work well in a straight line but for a top speed run it should help. Also buy a thin piece of lexan and make a belly pan. The smoother the bottom of the car is the faster it should go.

This sounds like a great project. I challenged some guys at another site to have a top speed shoot out for zip zaps and other tiny scale cars but it didn't get much interest so I never built the car I had planned. Now you've got me thinking of a top speed 1/64th scale car. I'd just have to find a basketball court or some other large very smooth surface to run it. Anyway, keep up the awesome build.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:38 am

Nice mtm
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:40 pm

Don't forget gearing! For some reason alot of micro owners forget about the three pinions it comes with. Go big pinion & little spur.

-Schwenzo
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:26 pm

DOESNT THAT GIVE YOU MORE TORQUE
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:00 pm

No it doesn't, the pinion has more teeth and the spur has less, this means that the motor will have to spin less times to rotat the spur, and effectivly the wheels.

No i didn't forget about geart, i ust forgot to mention it Embarassed
I am using a 14 tooth pinion from a 20 year old futaba servo, and a 32 tooth gear from the same servo. This gives me a primary ratio of 2.2875 : 1!
I have a 25 tooth spur that i might use, but i gota expirement with the motor first.

BTW, the 25 tooth wil give me a ratio of 1.7857 : 1!

More pics in a bit!
Also, i am working on a bottom chassis panel now, i'll get pics up tomarrow.
I will think about the aircraft wheels (or maby the modified pinewood derby ones)
the only thing about them is the stiff construction, if oyu hit a small peble at 45mph, your car will be a plane if one of the fronts hits it. (but thats why you sweep the strip Wink )

Thanks for all the ideas and comments, keep em coming!
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:13 pm

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0091p?&P=SM&C=QDA&V=GWS
i used a set of these (from the top few) for a school project accually a competion that we came 2nd in, and they worked realy nice and are really lite if you want tracaction just mount up a rubber band and a dab of CA and your set

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:33 pm

I might look into those i would just need to use spacers to keep the wheel from wobbling.
But that miogh tscrub speed, so...
Its confusing confused
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:56 pm

Try thrust roller bearings:
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:27 pm

or just ball bearings...
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:30 pm

Those wont work, ball bearings would just act as a metal bushing as the contact patch here is on the side of the bearing, not a rotating axle through the middle.

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:34 pm

ohh i was talking about them for the wheels them seleves

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:00 pm

A good shot of teflon spray workd for short runs. But you have to wipe it off afterwards or it gets gummy.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:09 pm

for that school project i did my group member brought in the stuff call "Mclube" it stinks but is amazing,

btw if i didn't allready say we took second and this was a regional com. my schools 3 teams were in the top 5

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:13 am

Nice, i took 2nd place at an egg drop comp. (regional) in 5th grade Very Happy

The only problem with the roller bearings is finding some that are small enough.

Anyway, new pics:

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:56 pm

IMO for wheels and tires put on some bald baja wheels and tires. I am sure you could find them from somebody. I like the rip design on the bottom makes it a little more snazzy. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:34 pm

baja 5b wheels cuz i don't think that motor could handle them Razz i just had to say it

but the micro baja wheels would be good, at least in the front and foams in the rear maybe

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:35 pm

I'm thinking of narrowing the front foams, i dont really know yet though. I first have to get the car running before i can expirement with those things.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:27 am

Oh, yeah...I suppose that would help. Sometimes I tend to forget the little things:)
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:59 am

I think rear foams would be a good starting point, but wheelies may become a problem with that. And r/c tv live just did a thingy on foams and how to narrow/true them etc. not too long ago.

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:10 pm

welp, i sorta missed ot on it, cause i just got em and trued em!
The Mailman was good to me today!!:


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Foams (b4 trueing):

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Body:

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Foams mounted and trued:

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These foams are pretty cool, they only weigh 6 grams in all!!! Thats 8 grams lighter than the stockers!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:13 pm

Great choice of body...you can never go wrong with a dirt late model Very Happy

BTW, where did you get the foams? I made some from a bike faom grip a while back but it would be so much easier just to buy them.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:13 pm

It looks like you didn't round the edges, that can lead to chunking. Put them in a truer and use a nail file or some fine sandpaper to round out the edges.

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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:22 pm

I'll throw the axles into the drill chuck tomarrow and round the edges.

Heres a link to the foams, and i also made foams outa grips as well! (they weigh 2 grams more)

http://www.thetoyz.com/cart/thetoyz_details.lasso?id=9517&cat_name=

They seen very grippy! even on tile, but we shall see.
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PostSubject: Re: Project Lightspeed!   Project Lightspeed! Icon_minitime1Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:40 pm

The toyz? I don't know how I missed these... I get a lot of stuff from them. Thanks for the link!
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